|  4ever7 | Oct 6, 2007 11:34am | | I'm proud of people like Betsy. They make this country great. I despise the leaders but I love the people! |
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Sponsor |  FreqWiz | Oct 6, 2007 8:44pm | | I will say, at the moment I believe the people is what make this country what it is, GREAT!!!!!! |
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| | danlo | Oct 18, 2007 10:23am | | It has always been the people, FreqWiz. The government is just a civil servant. |
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| | AmataPingveno | Oct 18, 2007 11:22am | | Perhaps that is why, despite it all, there is a high level of patriotism in 'Indian Country'. I'm not at all patriotic but In still stand up for the veterans at a pow wow or a parade. |
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| | danlo | Oct 18, 2007 9:25pm | Patriotism is an abused term. People associate it with being extreme-right wing, because they used the term the most. I say it's nonsense.
Being patriotic means caring about your community, about your heritage, willing to sacrifice for your society and for your country.It means helping the poor, preserving nature, being compassionate and giving.
Sometimes it means a willingness to fight for your country, and sometimes struggle to change its wrong doings - for its own good.
People should be proud to say the are patriotic.
Being unpatriotic means you simply don't care (or worse).
Well? Are you patriotic? |
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| | itlibitum | Oct 18, 2007 10:41pm | "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
It is possible to be proud of people, community, the country to love all this but to not be the patriot.
Patriotism is the beginning of fascism.
Patriotism is destructive, the love is constructive.
Words "to be proud" are boundary, but I perceive them as "I love".
In such kind it's unconditionally positive. |
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Sponsor | | peasofgreen | Oct 19, 2007 7:42am | 9: i couldn't disagree more.
i agree with danlo (#8) and have no idea how patriotism is the beginning of fascism. can you explain what you mean, itlibitum?
or are you just enjoying the debate of semantics ? |
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